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Dear Roger, I have Asperger’s Syndrome (a type of autism). Do I retain this characteristic or will Jesus Christ remove that condition from me? I actually like being able to do complex math and I’m not wild about being around other humans so being an Aspie doesn’t bother me. Sincerely, Craig Dear Craig, I believe that my dad had a touch of Asperger’s Syndrome. It is important that our readers understand that Asperger’s syndrome is a disorder characterized by difficulties in social interaction, along with restricted and repetitive patterns of behavior and interests. Most Asperger’s are also brilliant in several areas. The intensity of the syndrome varies greatly from person to person. In very simple terms I like to think of Asperger’s as being on a brain spectrum which extends from “Normal” to Asperger’s to Autism. Most autistic persons are male. Moving along the spectrum we find engineers who are quite structured and build great things but who tend to be somewhat more socially inhibited than females. Many of them don’t tend to talk a lot. On the other side of the spectrum we find women in many more social interaction activities and relationship settings. At the other end of the spectrum, women are also much more likely to lose their keys. My dad was a great dad; however, socially, he could say the strangest things at times. He thought that he was being clever; yet, many times in public we never knew what he was going to say next. He could embarrass us all in an instant. I remember once standing in line at a convenience store as Dad was handing money to the cashier. He said, “I bet it would be easy to dip your hand in the till and take money with no one knowing. Have you ever thought about doing it?” We all cringed. To Dad, that was just a normal question from his curious mind. To the rest of us, it was questioning the integrity of the cashier and inappropriate probing into their privacy. Nevertheless, he was able to interact well in many settings. For example, he was the vice president in charge of finances for a major airline for 40 years. He had a great mind for numbers, details, budgets and profit forecasting. His tendency toward Asperger’s served him well in many settings. I have some of Dad’s symptoms. My mind is sharp and quick. I am great with numbers and details but I tend to keep quiet in social settings because people tend to look strangely at me after some of the things I say. My family is constantly telling me to be careful what I say in public. The other day my son-in-law and I were driving when I saw some boys playing basketball. I said to Ricky, “Pull over.” He said, “No.” Roll your window back, up, I don’t want you to say anything to them.” I am learning to analyze carefully what I am about to say to see if I really want to say it. Most of the time, I desist. The good thing is that God can use folks who struggle with Asperger’s just like He can use anyone else in the Kingdom. One of the best things about my Dad’s tendency toward Asperger’s was his constant repetition of things he had said before. He often struggled with new things to say in social settings, so he would return to things he had said before in similar situations. I was embarrassed for him sometimes when he repeated the same things over and over. Some of this has genetically “rubbed” off on me. I remember once finishing a round of golf with two men I had never met before. As we walked off the final green I told the two how much fun I’d had, how impressed I was with their games and how much I would like to play with them again. They said, “Thanks.” Then I repeated the same words again and they said, “Thanks.” Then I repeated them again, and again, and again. Nothing seemed unusual until one of the men turned to my long-time-golfing buddy and said, “Is he making fun of us?” My friend said, “No, he just gets this way sometimes.” The beautiful thing is that the good things Dad repeated took deep root in my soul. Every time we selected something to buy, he repeated, “The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price has been forgotten.” I got really tired of hearing that; but, in a good way, his repetition affects every purchase I make these days. Whenever he faced life’s difficulties, he repeated Philippians 4:13: “I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.” I remember the moment when his doctor told him that no more medicines were available to fight his cancer. “Well, then, what are we going to try next,” dad asked. “There is no next,” said the doctor. As the reality of impending death sunk in, Dad looked at me and said, “Well,” and then he paused and thought for a while. Finally, he whispered quietly to himself, “I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.” If I heard him say it once I heard him say it a thousand times. I was sick of hearing it. Now, I say it all the time—and I am the better man and Christian for it. I am glad, Craig, that you have made peace with your Asperger’s and now find many aspects of it to have positive impact in your life. I am reminded that God has designed us even before we are born to have our place in the Kingdom. I believe that He makes no mistakes in these areas. David wrote in Psalm 139:13-16: For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well. My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place. When I was woven together in the depths of the earth, your eyes saw my unformed body. All the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be. When God called Jeremiah to full-time service as a prophet, He told Jeremiah that he was custom-designed for the task: “The word of the LORD came to me, saying, ‘Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations” (Jeremiah 1:4-5). I believe that Jesus will use you and your Asperger’s well in the Kingdom here on earth. Now, concerning whether or not you will have Asperger’s in Heaven, I really don’t know. However, it may be that 1 John 3:2-3 trumps all other considerations. Paul wrote, “Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when he appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is. Everyone who has this hope in him purifies himself, just as he is pure.” Craig, I really appreciate your question. I know there are many people who have Asperger’s or a friend who does that will be helped by your question. May God bless you richly. See you in Heaven. Love, Roger

Dear Roger, Good Morning, I just finished my morning meditation time and this is what I am thinking. I am seeing this with great clarity right now. If you have time….if you care to….would you comment on my thoughts? Is this a good picture of free choice and predetermination? It seems pretty clear to me….does it make sense to you? Is it true? “I realize that bad times are part of a process that leads to something good! (I am trying to make sense of my husband leaving our marriage after 45 years). It is the events that follow bad times that determine the ultimate meaning of those times. In other words, it’s my future that determines my past; not the other way around. And since I am in charge of my future, then I determine the meaning of my past. It’s interesting to think about this in the context of an age-old question: Do we have free choice or is everything predetermined? I think the answer is YES. Everything is predetermined AND we have free choice. It’s like when we play a card game. We get dealt a hand. And we have no control over the cards we get dealt. It’s predetermined. But we also get to play that hand. We also have free choice. Ultimately, it’s the COMBINATION of the hand we’re dealt and the way we play it that determines the outcome. And it’s the outcome that shapes my view of the original hand I was dealt. God deals us a hand. There’s nothing we can do to change that. But we get to play that hand. I get to respond to the events of my life. And it’s my response, my actions in the future, which determine the meaning of the events in my past. So how do I get over the past? I don’t have to get over the past. The past is over! What’s important is the MEANING the past has for me NOW. And the MEANING of my past is determined by my actions in the future. If I play my hand right, my hurts become part of my healing. And, in fact, I think it’s usually bad times that awaken people to search for new ways. I can’t make the past go away, but I can heal. I have free choice.” Thank you, Nancy Dear Nancy, Now, Nancy, I’ve decided to let your own “wonderings” answer your own question. Seldom does the questioner provide the answer in their own question. Therefore, I am going to share your own comments with our other Ask Roger readers. I love your understanding of our own free will and the practical implications that you share. I really admire your ability to articulate the issues with great insight and teach some a practical “how-tos” for handling properly the choices we make with our free will. Thank you. Nancy, you are so right. We have to play the cards we are dealt and how we play them makes all the difference in the world. Just for fun, let’s take this a bit further. The issue of free will (that we have a conscious choice in making decisions and choosing how we live) and determinism (the idea that God has laid out our lives in such a way that all of our decisions and choices will occur as previously predetermined by Him) has puzzled the best (and simplest) of minds since the days of Plato (the Greek philosopher) and for multiple centuries before his time. I am quite fascinated by the recent trends in quantum mechanics (the physics of how the universe operates on the micro level as opposed to the macro level) that are forcing physicists to face the religious and philosophical implications that free will is designed into the very nature of the universe. Many scientists reasoned that if the location and velocity of every sub-atomic particle were known, then it is possible to predict the exact future of the universe. In other words, everything in the universe is predetermined—free will cannot exist. Quantum mechanics accurately describes what happens on the sub-atomic level. However, beyond all common sense, what happens on the micro level is everything but predetermined. Behaviors there can be affected by an interaction with human observations, choices, or even personal thinking! The religious and philosophical implications of these findings are astounding. However, they were consciously ignored, glossed over and minimized by physicists who wanted nothing to do with these implications. “Quantum enigma” is the term used to describe the religious and philosophical implications resulting from quantum mechanics. It was not until the late 1990s and early 2000s that open-minded physicists who grew up in the 1960s began to explore these implications.” For the previous 90 years physicists simply refused to acknowledge the existence of these implications—basically because of personal beliefs—or lack thereof. Unraveling the quantum enigma means that some sort of mental, spiritual, or as yet unidentified entity facilitates contact with different levels of the physical world. In one sense, since the macro world is simply a giant-sized micro world (if we could see it from a vantage point far enough away, everyone interacts with an unseen world with the free will to make all sorts of choices that affect the events and activities of our lives. In other words, there is a mysterious connection between human observation (and consciousness) and the physical world. Love, Roger

Dear Roger, I am a new Christian reading the Bible for the first time. I feel like a whole new world has opened up before me. A friend suggested that it would be good for me to read the New Testament from beginning to end. I am finding some of the commands of Jesus hard to swallow. Like in Matthew 18:8-9 where Jesus says to cut off a hand or a foot or poke out an eye and throw it away if it causes me to sin. I’ve asked some of my friends for help and no one really seems to know what to do with this command. Did Jesus really mean what He said? Is something else going on here? Sincerely, New Christian Dear New Christian, No, Jesus didn’t mean for us to take His words literally. He used a literary device here known as a “hyperbole.” Hyperboles use exaggeration to evoke strong feelings or to engender make a strong impression. For example, today we might say, “That bag weighs a ton.” We all know that the bag doesn’t literally weigh 2,000 pounds. What we do know is that it is really heavy! By the way, from the number and wide variety of the literary devices employed by Jesus, there is no doubt that He was familiar with them and their use. Every language uses literary devices to make common language more powerful and clear. When we read the Matthew 18:8-9 passage with hyperboles in mind we easily understand the meaning Christ intended to convey: If your hand or your foot causes you to sin cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life maimed or crippled than to have two hands or two feet and be thrown into eternal fire. And if your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell. The issue here is not cutting off body parts. Jesus was saying, “Sin is really, really bad and awful. If you are not careful, it can send you to Hell—So Don’t Do It!” Matthew 7:3-5 is another example of Jesus utilizing hyperbole to make His point: “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye ,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye , and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.” Anyone can get sawdust in their eyes. But a giant plank just won’t fit! This is a hyperbole. Let me give you a couple of other examples of Jesus’ use of literality devices to more emphatically enhance the power of His Words. He made many comparisons using similes and metaphors. Both devices make comparisons between two things. A simile makes the comparison using the words, “like,” or “as.” A metaphor makes a comparison without the use of “like,” or “as.” For example: “Her eyes were like glistening jewels” is a simile. “Her eyes were glistening jewels” is a metaphor. In John 10:9 Jesus declared, “I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.” This statement is a metaphor. Jesus is not made out of wood. But the message is clear. Salvation is only found through entering into Kingdom life with Jesus. In Matthew 13:44 Jesus declared: “The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field. When a man found it, he hid it again, and then in his joy went and sold all he had and bought that field.” The use of “like” identifies this comparison as a simile. Occasionally, Jesus used a literary device which was common in His day but seldom if ever used in our day. It is called a “Chiasm” after the Greek letter “Chi” which we translate as “X”. In fact the Greek letter “X” looks like an “X”. It is a double cross. For example, Jesus taught: “Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces” (Matthew 7:6). This passage is incomprehensible without understanding Chiasms. This is Hebrew poetical structure has a rhyme scheme of ABBA whereby the first and fourth and second and third phrases rhyme (or go together). The first phrase, “Do not give dogs what is sacred” goes with the last phrase, “and then turn and tear you to pieces.” The second phrase, “Do not throw your pearls to pigs” goes with the third phrase, “If you do, they may trample them under their feet.” As a chiasm this teaching now can make sense. Be careful how you handle truth in the presence of mockers. Mark used an onomatopoeia to try and capture Jesus’ feelings of deep compassion when the Rich Young Ruler turned his back and walked away. Mark wrote in Mark 10:21: “Jesus looked at him and loved him…” The Greek word chosen by Mark is not the usual word for love (“agape” or “philos”). When pronounced in Greek, “eegápeesen”, sounds much like what we might imagine deep groaning and perhaps even deep pain in our intestines to sound like. Jesus had the deepest sense of compassion possible for this young man who broke His heart just a few minutes later. An onomatopoeia is using a word that sounds like the word itself. Think of words like “zip,” “splash,” “gush,”” Ker plunk,” “buzz,” “hiss,” squeak,” and “hush.” Onomatopoeia brings out the full flavor of words. Personification is a device which attributes human characteristics to inanimate objects. Jesus utilized personification when the crowds cheered His triumphant entry into Jerusalem on Palm Sunday: “Some of the Pharisees in the crowd said to Jesus, ‘Teacher, rebuke your disciples!’ ‘I tell you,’ he replied, ‘if they keep quiet, the stones will cry out’” (Luke 19:39-40). Of course, Jesus may not have intended this statement as a literary device at all. The rocks would have cried out if Jesus had so commanded. Let me give you just one more example. Symbolism is using one object to stand for something else or to mean something else. Jesus used symbolism in John 3:14-15when He referred to the Old Testament story of Moses and the bronze serpent. He said, “Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the desert, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life.” During the wilderness wanderings a plague of poisonous snakes over ran the Israelite camp mercilessly killing thousands. God was punishing them for their sin of ingratitude. Those unfortunate enough to be bitten died. No antidote existed. The people pleaded with Moses for relief. God instructed Moses to make a bronze serpent and put it up on a pole for all to see. Whoever looked at the uplifted snake would be saved. Jesus was referring to this passage and identifying the serpent as a symbol of Himself. The snake poison is a symbol of sin. As the serpent was uplifted on a cross so Jesus will be lifted up on a cross to die. Any one may look to the uplifted Christ in faith and belief and immediately experience the healing remedy necessary to neutralize the poison of sin coursing through their lives. I have no intention of overwhelming you with the above material, New Christian. I shared enough material to help you better understand the teachings of the Bible verses. You have a life time ahead of discovering the beauties of the Scriptures. My advice to you is not to become frustrated or overwhelmed by the passages you may not understand just now. Refuse to be deterred in your reading when you come across something that doesn’t yet make sense to you. Mark Twain said, “It’s not what I don’t understand about the Bible that bothers me, but what I do understand.” Enjoy you reading and may the Holy Spirit (who inspired the people who wrote the Bible) give you great insight and understanding as you seek out the truths and principles of God’s Word. May you get to know the loving and eternal God more and more as you meet with Him on the pages of the Bible Love, Roger

Dear Roger, I suspect my church may be making poor financial choices, how open should I expect them to be about how they spread out and spend the entire budget? Dear Robert, When it comes to money, everyone has an opinion on how to spend it—especially if it is the Lord’s money! When it comes to how the church spends the Lord’s tithes and offerings we ought to be concerned. After all, we are talking about eternal things. Before I share some Biblical thoughts regarding how a church might spend money, let me give a direct, and short, answer to your question: Every aspect of the church budget should be available for anyone in the church family to observe and study. Nothing should be hidden from view—except the salaries of the pastor and the church staff. Some churches plan carefully, seek God’s will, open up to suggestions from the church family and invest wisely in the Kingdom. Other churches waste a lot of money on things not of eternal value. Church size has little to do with investing wisely in the Kingdom. I have observed that both large and small churches can spend wisely. On the other hand, churches of any size can quickly burn a hole in their financial pockets which allows much of the money God has entrusted to them to slip through their fingers. The Lord Jesus has endorsed a number of places where spending money is totally legit and even commanded Global Outreach giving to fund world-wide-missionary work is encouraged. The last words Jesus gave to his disciples are known as the Great Commission. Final words are deeply significant. Jesus said in Matthew 28:19-20: “Therefore, go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.” I think that the best way for a church to fund missionary activity is to take 10% right off the top of the offerings. This guarantees that a local church supports the Great Commission financially (Note that there is a difference between giving to world-wide Kingdom work and giving to support denominational activities.). Looking back over thirty-five years of pastoring the same church, one of my regrets is the day we voted to fund missions activity by an annual fund drive instead of by continuing to take the first 10% of the offerings right off the top. Our annual fund drive never once reached what would have been 10% of our budget. We came close; but not close enough. I wish we had done better here. A tithe of 10% plus the annual drive would have been best for the Kingdom. We would have done just fine with 10% less income for the budget. On the other hand, one thing I rejoice in was our decision to take 10% of the Building Fund money we raised and invest it in Global Outreach. We did nine, three-year fundraisers, in a row and sent several millions over seas. It just seemed right that when we build something for us we would do well to build something needed on the missionary field as well. Giving to the poor is a top priority. Paul set forth this principle as the early church was laying out its theology and practices. He wrote in Galatians 2:9-10: “They agreed that we should go to the Gentiles, and they to the Jews. All they asked was that we should continue to remember the poor, the very thing I was eager to do.” Solomon extolled the blessing of generosity in Proverb 19:17: “He who is kind to the poor lends to the Lord, and He will reward him for what he has done.” Think about it, is it not an intriguing thought to have the Lord in our debt! A certain percentage of the church budget and four annual offerings for the poor have helped to instill a generous attitude in the hearts of our church people—and brought financial help to many financially-strapped individuals. By the way, we cannot take care of every financial need that comes to the attention of the church. Jesus said in Mark 14:7: “The poor you will always have with you, and you can help them any time you want. But you will not always have me.” One of the best ways I know to apportion money wisely is to delegate the responsibly to a carefully selected benevolence committee. Hopefully, some will have expertise in this area (or are willing to get some). For example, in order to receive funds, our committee looks much more favorably upon those people who work with us in developing a budget in order to get their spending under control, than we do on people who just want an immediate handout. Of course, many do need an immediate financial hand out; the benevolence committee assesses the needs and gives accordingly. By the way, the pastor should never be on the benevolence committee—he or she tends to be too soft hearted. Pastors and church staff have a God-given right to be cared for physically and financially. Paul made this concept a top church value in 1 Timothy 5:17-18: “The elders who direct the affairs of the church well are worthy of double honor, especially those whose work is preaching and teaching. For the Scripture says, ‘Do not muzzle the ox while it is treading out the grain,’ and ‘The worker deserves his wages’”. I grieve over the common church attitude that declares it good for the pastor to be poor in order to keep him humble and dependant on the Lord. This is an anti-Biblical attitude which has denied many pastors’ families the financial support they so richly deserve. Unfortunately, pastors’ children live in forced asceticism. No wonder so many grow up to hate the church! By the way, I believe that whichever group is responsible for setting church salaries has the responsibility for keeping all salaries confidential. In the secular-work place people can be sued or fired for discussing each others’ salaries. Church members are not required to post their salaries for all to see. Pastors and church staff have the same right. After all, some will always think that the pastor makes too much, and then, there are those blessed souls who think that the pastor and staff are not paid nearly enough. In my experience, most people evaluate another’s salary in comparison to their own. This is a miserable way to set salaries. The local church is the God-designed financial engine to fund the work of the Kingdom. The church budget must include sufficient funds to support the administrative and operational costs of Home Base. The church in Philippi was able to fund Kingdom work because it had a strong Home Base. In Philippians 4:15-16 Paul reminded them of their ministry and gifts to him: “Moreover, as you Philippians know, in the early days of your acquaintance with the gospel, when I set out from Macedonia, not one church shared with me in the matter of giving and receiving, except you only; for even when I was in Thessalonica, you sent me aid again and again when I was in need.” Our church badly needs new carpet in the office and administrative areas. Some say that we would do better to send the money over seas in Global Outreach. However, stained and worn out after ten years of faithful service, I say it is just time to buy some new carpet. It may be that the most important committee in the church is the one that determines the annual budget. Just as our personal checkbooks reveal the priorities of our lives, the church budget reflects the values and priorities of the church. When the church budget follows well-planned, God-given-financial principles along with well-conceived-church priorities, you know that the church is spending well. The pastor’s job is to lead in setting the strategic and tactical plans for the church. While we will seldom if ever be in full agreement regarding the expenditure of funds, it is possible for a church to do a great job in handling God’s money—and one day receive Jesus’ blessing and reward. By the grace God has given me, I laid a foundation as an expert builder, and someone else is building on it. But each one should be careful how he builds. 11 For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 If any man builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, 13 his work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man’s work. 14 If what he has built survives, he will receive his reward. 15 If it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flame (1 Corinthians 3:10-15). Robert, thanks for asking such a needed and timely question. I hope that my answer gives you some food for profitable thought. Love, Roger

Dear Roger, I am a devout Christian and my girlfriend is Mormon. We are getting closer to closer and have been dating about a year and have gotten through tough things together. (Her father’s suicide for example) My question is: What is the best way to go out about understanding, accepting, and growing together towards Spiritual Mothers and Fathers? I have drawn from the “condemnation engineering” sermon that “I’m Right, She’s Wrong” is not the best approach to our discussions about faith. Sincerely, Evan Dear Evan, I know that sharing life experiences with someone you love is a great strength and blessing. Your relationship is obviously being strengthened by and not weakened by some of the difficult trials you have walked through together. We have many wonderful Mormon neighbors. I truly respect their emphasis upon family values and their sincere zeal to share their faith. That being said, you need to be aware that Mormonism and evangelical Christianity are worlds apart. So how do you approach this one you care about so deeply and dialogue about the differences in your faith? I agree with you wholeheartedly that you can be seen as harsh and judgmental if you use “condemnation engineering” (Matthew 7:1-12). The concept of, condemnation engineering is based upon Jesus’ teaching in Matthew 7. Condemnation engineering uses statements like, “You should stop doing it like that” (Matthew 7:1-5); or, “I know how to fix it. You ought to do it my way!” (Matthew 7:6). On the other hand, Jesus encourages us to draw people into the kingdom rather than belittling or coercing them. (Matthew 7:7-12). Let me now share a few thoughts which may be of help. To begin with, here is a principle I have followed for years: Don’t trash someone else’s religion or their religious and/or spiritual beliefs; show them something better—like the attractiveness of Jesus Christ. In other words, lift up Jesus instead of tearing down others’ spiritual foundations. Next, living a caring and loving Christian life in front of your girlfriend might initiate in her a desire to have the same Christ-filled life you have. Peter encourages this sort of approach in 1 Peter 3:1-2. Peter says that the best way for wives to win their husband’s to Christ is not by talking but by living out the abundant life of Christ before their eyes: “Wives, in the same way be submissive to your husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives, when they see the purity and reverence of your lives.” You might consider initiating a frank discussion of both your religious beliefs and hers. I believe that it is fair to say that Mormonism and Christianity are quite different. In fact, their basic tenants are mutually exclusive. May I share with you a simple overview of some of the basic differences? For example, I understand that the God of Christianity and the god of Mormonism are not the same. I believe it is correct to say that Mormons believe that the “Heavenly Father” is a glorified man who was once a human just like us. The spirits of all people on earth are the product of his union with “heavenly mothers.” The Christian God is the Creator of all things, infinite and eternal, completely different from us, yet we are made in His image. According to Mormonism, Jesus was the firstborn spirit-child of the Heavenly Father. He became mortal through the Father’s physical union with Mary. Jesus’ atoning death and a person’s good works are the basis of our salvation. That is not at all the Christian understanding of Jesus. The Bible teaches that Jesus is the Son of God, fully human and fully divine—perfect God and perfect Man. He died to pay the penalty for our sins, rose from the dead, and will come again someday. From what I understand, Mormonism teaches that there are multiple levels of heaven—not just one as described in Christianity. I think it is correct to say that Mormonism is a “works” type of religion with fourteen steps or activities which must be climbed or accomplished in order to reach the highest level of heaven. Lower levels of heaven are populated by other Mormons in proportion to how many special activities they did accomplish. I am rather certain that a basic Mormon teaching is that non-Mormons will serve Mormons in the afterlife. Christianity, on the other hand, is not a “works” religion. Christianity is based on the concept of grace. Though we aren’t perfect—we’ve sinned and missed God’s standards so many times—God chose to provide a way for us to be made clean in his eyes. We can never do enough to earn or deserve our salvation, so Jesus died in our place, taking on the penalty for our sins. That’s grace. Heaven and eternal life are freely given by grace through faith to all who surrender their lives in repentance and humility to Jesus Christ. According to the Bible, and Jesus’ numerous declarations, He Himself is the only doorway into eternal life in Heaven. He clearly explained the His feelings in John 3:16-18: “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.” Not only is believing in the crucified and resurrected Jesus essential to eternal salvation, the Apostle Paul elaborated on Jesus’ teaching by explaining that if any one teaches or trusts in anything in addition to the Work of Christ on the cross, they are deeply misguided and under the curse of God (“already condemned” is how Jesus put it). In Ephesians 2:8-9 Paul made clear that any attempts to climb steps or do special activities to earn a standing in Heaven are doomed to failure. He wrote: “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast.” Paul’s gospel formula” was quite simple: “Faith in Christ + nothing else = salvation.” To put any thing else in the formula is to pervert the gospel. Evil teachers were perverting the gospel in by changing the formula to “Faith in Christ + the Jewish rite of circumcision = salvation.” In Galatians 1:6-9 Paul was pleading for the Galatian Christians not to be seduced by the new formula. With fire in his soul Paul wrote to them: “I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel—which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!” If I understand correctly, the Book of Mormon was delivered to Joseph Smith by the angel Maroni. As best I can tell, the salvation formula used in Mormonism is “Faith in Christ + other essential steps or activities = salvation.” Considering what he wrote to the Galatians, the Apostle Paul would be appalled at this “perverting” of the formula. For further study you might want to read the following two books: “Mormonism 101: Examining the Religion of the Latter-day Saints” by Bill McKeever and Eric Johnson (Grand Rapids, Michigan: Baker, 2000); and “Mormonism Unmasked: Confronting the Contradictions Between Mormon Beliefs and True Christianity” by R. Philip Roberts (Nashville: Broadman & Holman, 1998.) I have shared the above information in order to help you understand some of the basic differences between Christianity and Mormonism. I do not advise you to dump all of this information on your girlfriend because you would most likely be entering into the realm of condemnation engineering. You may, however, find the information helpful in a frank discussion of your beliefs and hers. Finally, let’s consider your question about growing to maturity together as spiritual mothers and fathers. It is not good to try to grow to spiritual maturity alone. Christian spiritual growth is best accomplished in the context of community. The best way for you and your girlfriend to mature together into Christlikeness is to be in lock-step in your spiritual journeys. If your girlfriend continues as a Mormon while you remain a Christian, you are heading down two different paths—thus, you will never mature together as spiritual mothers and fathers. The only way for you and your girlfriend to fulfill this desire of your heart is by following the Christian ideal of a maturing, intimate relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ as described by Paul in Philippians 3: “That I may know Christ and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of sharing in his sufferings.” The meaning here is a personal, full fledged and intentional surrender of self in following the Jesus Christ who is presented in the Bible. I hope that these thoughts are helpful to you in your relationship with your girlfriend and in your growing relationship with Jesus. Love, Roger

Dear Roger, Was Jesus a socialist? Sincerely, Wayne Dear Wayne, First of all, Jesus Christ is Jesus Christ. His beliefs transcend any economic or governmental system. His kingdom was not of this world. It occurs to me that the very question, “Was Jesus a Socialist?” implies our attempt to discern whether or not Jesus agrees with our own governmental and/or economic ideals. His backing would be powerful support for one side or another. Remember, Jesus Christ is Jesus Christ. His beliefs transcend any economic or governmental system. Now, let me address your question and offer my thoughts. It’s a great question, especially with the current governmental trend to take over control of the economy at the expense of the private ownership of goods and the free market enterprise! The most obvious answer may well be, “Of course He was a socialist!” However, frankly, there is more Biblical evidence that He was a capitalist than a socialist. Before we talk more about Jesus, let me share a simple description of both socialism and capitalism and how they differ. The real difference between socialism and capitalist revolves around just who is going to be in charge of the money. Socialism is system in which the ownership and control of production and the distribution of goods, land and capital is overseen and controlled by the government. Socialism attempts to distribute assets equally so that no one has more than anyone else while the needs of everyone in society are met. Unfortunately, socialism often reduces incentives to perform and often hastens a welfare mentality that believes that it is the government’s job to meet needs. Equality can never be obtained because those higher up in the system always end up with more than everyone else. Capitalism is an economic system in which the ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange of wealth is maintained chiefly by private individuals and/or corporations. Capitalists operate and manage their property for profit. Capitalism provides for the needs of society by creating jobs which allow people to meet their needs and to own their own things. Unfortunately, materialism and greed can destroy the goodness of any capitalistic society. By the way, I have always found interesting those persons who use the story of Robin Hood to justify the taking of money from the rich and redistributing it to the poor. Robin Hood never took money from the rich; he stole money from a governmental system that was exorbitantly and unfairly overtaxing the poor. The Sheriff of Nottingham was the governmental authority who was stealing from the people. Now, let’s talk about Jesus. The most clearly defined picture of Jesus is as a capitalist. During the last week of His life the Pharisees were trying to trap Him as recorded in Luke 20:22-26: “Is it right for us to pay taxes to Caesar or not?” He saw through their duplicity and said to them, “Show me a denarius. Whose portrait and inscription are on it?” “Caesar’s,” they replied. He said to them, “Then give to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s.” They were unable to trap him in what he had said there in public. And astonished by his answer, they became silent. The Roman Empire was basically a capitalistic society. While the government controlled a portion of the wealth and occasionally doled out handouts and welfare checks to control certain segments of society, capitalism ruled. Businesses were privately owned and operated. Profits were made and lost under systems of free enterprise. In a sense Jesus put His stamp of approval on a capitalistic system. As best as I can tell, Jesus never addressed the validity of a socialistic society. He was quite concerned with ministering to the needs of the “down and outs” of society. He fed the hungry 5,000 in John 6:1-15. In Matthew 25:34-46, He praised those who cared for the poor and needy. To answer your question, Wayne, I spent the last hour combing the gospels and I can find no passage where Jesus even remotely hinted at the concept of socialism. Somewhat of a socialistic model is seen in the coming together of the early church Christians in Acts 4:32-35: All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but they shared everything they had…. There were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone as he had need. Within twenty years this form of church structure ceased to exist except for in some isolated cases. As best as I can tell, the concept of bringing all possessions together for equal ownership in order to meet needs and bring oneness and unity is never put forth as a definitive Christian model for society. In Romans 13:1-7, while in the process of describing the reasons and importance of God-ordained governments, Paul clearly instructed Christians to pay taxes and revenue, respect and honor to support the Roman governmental system: … This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor. I hesitate to declare Jesus a capitalist. Whether or not He had socialistic leanings we will never know. After all, His mission was to sacrifice Himself in order to forgive the sins of those who accepted His gift of salvation. His mind never wavered from His purpose. He rarely veered from discussing anything except His mission. Since He never made either capitalism or liberalism the focus of His work, we have no right to try to put Him in either camp. When I think of Jesus’ approving socialism, capitalism—or not—I always think of Alexander Solzhenitsyn. Solzhenitsyn was a Russian and Soviet novelist, dramatist, and historian. Through his writings he helped to make the world aware of the Gulag, the Soviet Unions forced labor camp system. Ever since I read “The Gulag Archipelago” and “One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich” about his incarceration and survival in the Hellish Soviet prison system, I have considered him a personal hero. By the way, he was a deeply committed Christian. I was thrilled when he was released from the Gulag after his gulag was smuggled out and published in the West. He was declared “persona non grata” in the Soviet Union. He chose to relocate to Vermont in the United States. In June, 1978 he was invited to speak to an elite group at Harvard University on the insidious and destructive nature of the Soviet Socialistic System. So, he did. But, no one was ready for what came next. He was expected to approve the achievements of Western society in contrast to Soviet communism. But, he didn’t. Instead, he gave a scathing denunciation of the failings of Western society. He cited a decline in courage among American politicians; the moral degeneracy of Western citizens because they get most everything they want; a misguided legalistic system which leads to moral mediocrity; a freedom to justify any sort of moral behavior; and an unchecked freedom of the Press which is allowed to crucify individuals with impunity. I’ll quote the paragraph from his Harvard speech which helps explain in a nut shell what he said: There are meaningful warnings that history gives (to) a threatened or perishing society. Such are, for instance, the decadence of art, or a lack of great statesmen. There are open and evident warnings, too. The center of your democracy and of your culture is left without electric power for a few hours only, and all of a sudden crowds of American citizens start looting and creating havoc. The smooth surface film must be very thin, then, the social system quite unstable and unhealthy. The reason discussed Solzhenitsyn is that on one ever wanted to hear from Him again! He was never again asked to speak in any public forum of significance. The West closed its selective eyes and refused to hear what he had to say. Solzhenitsyn was Solzhenitsyn. His beliefs transcended both East and West. Remember, Jesus Christ is Jesus Christ. His beliefs transcend any economic or governmental system. Well, Wayne, great question. I feel like my answer is somewhat of a “rough draft” answer. Nevertheless, I hope it provides some good food for thought. I invite you to comment on the matter in the blog response below. I sure other responders have quite a lot to say on this subject as well. Love, Roger

Dear Roger, So, I have some tough (or not so tough) questions that I think you might be able to help me with. It’s about the 144,000 who are sealed. The Jehovah’s Witness say that Bible passage applies to them. First off, I have seen translations where some read the seal is ‘on’ their foreheads and some where it says ‘in’. I guess it would be kind of both in a way – but clearly the person who is sealed would know it, but do you think that others would be able to see this seal on those people as well? If not, then this would of course prove the supernatural aspect of God to the person sealed, but it really wouldn’t help others see what is coming. But if it was noticeable by others, then it would help spread the Gospel in a way never seen before since Jesus and the original twelve. Let me just say it is something that is close to my heart and been on my mind ( so to speak) for quite a while and if you could pray about it and just let me know whatever God speaks to you I would really appreciate it…. Sincerely, Daniel Dear Daniel, Jehovah’s witnesses claim the number 144,000 applies to them. Many of us have direct contact with them every time they ring the door bells of our homes and try to invite themselves inside to discuss their doctrines for the purpose of evangelizing others to join their group. The Society was established in the nineteenth century by Charles Taze Russell. A schism occurred after Russell’s death and after decades of theological development, the society has reached its present form. The central beliefs of Jehovah’s Witness revolve around the return of Christ to establish His Kingdom on earth thus solving the problems of mankind. The name “Jehovah’s Witnesses,” which is based on Isaiah 43:10–12, was adopted in 1931. In 1914 the group announced that the Second Coming of Christ was imminent. When Jesus failed to appear that year the projected date was changed to 1925. When that year came and went they reconsidered and again changed the date to 1975. As far as I know, no future dates are predicted at this time. Russell’s original teachings identified his followers to be the 144,000 mentioned in the book of Revelation. Only Jehovah’s Witnesses had any hope of surviving the impending doom. Problems arose when the number of society followers exceeded 144,000 (The society now claims some 18 million members.) In order to handle the problem, Witness’ doctrine was adjusted so that God would ultimately decide those who were in the 144,000 and who were not. Those chosen will be resurrected to live forever in an earthly paradise ruled by Christ and the 144,000. You are referring to the Book of Revelation where God seals 144,000 (12,000 from each of the twelve tribes of Israel). Then I saw another angel coming up from the east, having the seal of the living God. He called out in a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm the land and the sea: “Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.” Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel (Revelation 7:2-4). Let’s start with the seal. What is it and will others be able to see it? The best interpretation of Scripture is Scripture. Paul refers to the seal of the Holy Spirit which identifies, preserves and protects Christians from the moment of salvation out into eternity. This seal is the guarantee that we as Christians are God’s children: “And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption” (Ephesians 4:30-31). This seal is obviously an internal-spiritual one. Christians today do not walk around with any sort of visible seal. In the same way, it is safe to say that the sealing mentioned in Revelation Seven is an internal, spiritual seal which encourages and comforts the 144,000. There is, however, the mark of the Beast, which appears to be an outside marker of the followers of the Anti-Christ. John tells us in Revelation 13:11-18 that the mark (“666”) is placed on their hands or forehead. John tells us that true Christians will refuse the mark and thus will endure economic sanctions, physical persecutions and martyrdom. Anyone who receives the mark will be excluded from the Kingdom and eternal life. Regarding evangelism during the end times, God has several groups of evangelizers. First are these 144,000. Note that these are Jewish converts to Christ. We might say that these are 144,000 Jews for Jesus! Note that immediately following their conversion and sealing mighty rejoicing occurs in Heaven because of the many on earth who are saved through their testimonies. Second, the martyrs mentioned in Revelation 6:9-11 are put to death precisely because they were sharing their faith in Christ. Next, Jesus sends two witnesses who evangelize with mighty signs and wonders for 1260 days. They are then killed in the streets of Jerusalem to the rejoicing and relief of the Anti-Christ and his followers. Three and one-half days after their martyrdom they are miraculously resurrected. The Second Coming occurs moments later (Revelation 11:1-13). Many believe that these two witnesses are Moses and Elijah. God Himself had access to their bodies and many feel that they were once again clothed in their earthy bodies and sent back to earth for a season of evangelistic endeavor. Finally, three angels supernaturally share the Gospel with every living creature on earth (Revelation 14:6-13). In the Olivet Discourse Jesus said: “And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come” (Matthew 24:14). By the way, there is another group of 144,000 mentioned in Revelation 14:1-5. Many feel that this is the same as the 144,000 Jews for Jesus. Since these are pictured in Heaven giving honor and praise to the Lamb of God, we may well be glimpsing the praise and worship of the 144,000 after they enter Heaven’s glory! I love the irony that God has written His name on their foreheads. On the other hand, the group in Revelation 14 are specifically described as those who “did not defile themselves with women, for they kept themselves pure. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among men and offered as firstfruits to God and the Lamb. No lie was found in their mouths; they are blameless” (Revelation 14:4-5). Perhaps these descriptive monikers identify a different group of 144,000—perhaps not. Daniel, I hope my answer gives some insight to your questions. Ask me another sometime. Love, Roger

Dear Roger, Recently, I was teaching Christian theology in another country to some pastors and pastors’ wives. One pastor told about a man who came often to church; but his family never came with him. One of the church members decided to go into the jungle area where the man lived and meet with the family. He was shocked to discover that this church-attending man had two wives. The practice of polygamy was deeply ingrained in his tribal culture. The visiting church member proceeded to tell the man that according to the Bible having more than one wife was a sin, and that he must divorce one of the wives before he could again attend their church. This encounter spread like wildfire throughout the tribe and neither the polygamist, his family, nor any one else from that tribe have darkened the door of the church since. Did this church member do the right thing? Sincerely, J. (This story/question is a summation of a discussion that I had recently with J.) Dear J, I remember an experience early in my ministry when a married man came to me with a similar problem. He had fallen in love with a woman not his wife and was deeply guilt-ridden. He wanted advice about what to do. I told him that the first thing that he needed was to surrender his life to Christ as his Savior and Lord and become a Christian. I shared the gospel with him and asked him if he would like to repent of his sins and invite Jesus into his life. He nodded his head. He was ready. Then I said, “If you want to come to Jesus you must first give up your sin. Will you confess to God that having a mistress is a sin and that you will end your relationship with the woman immediately?” He began to weep. His body shook. He was obviously under deep conviction. After more discussion, clarification and tears he decided that he just wasn’t ready to give her up. As we parted I told him that I would pray and fast for him for the next three days in the hope that he might surrender the error of his ways, repent, ask God for forgiveness and forsake the woman forever. Three days later I called him. He was quite curt as he cut off the conversation and hung up on me. I’ve never seen him again. I’ve thought often of that encounter. He was on the verge of surrendering his life to Christ and becoming a Christian—and then chose to turn away. For years I wondered if I somehow mishandled that sacred moment. The issue of forsaking sin before coming to Christ revolvers around two opposite poles. One end of the spectrum says that you have to clean up your life and your sin before you can come to Christ. The other pole says that you can come to Christ at any time and then Christ will go to work cleaning up your life—and your sin. In my encounter with the mistress-laden man above, I chose the former approach. Jesus at times chose the same. When He encounter the Rich Young Ruler, Jesus told him in no uncertain terms that he must surrender all that he owned before he could come and follow Him. Jesus felt deep sorrow and compassion as the young man declined His offer (Luke 18:18-30). On the other hand, I am more inclined now to handle those sacred moments of potential conversion more carefully. None of us have the personal power to forsake sin and make sense of our broken lives without the life and power of the indwelling Christ. This power is available only to those who become Christians. In other words, we can come to Christ before we forsake all of our sins and then let Christ begin and continue the cleaning up process. This latter approach was the one He used with Zacchaeus. Zacchaeus, the hated Roman tax collector, climbed a tree in order better to see Jesus when He walked through town. Jesus proceeded directly to Zacchaeus’ tree and said, “Zacchaeus, you dirty sinner, stop it!” No, of course not, that is not what He said at all. I think Jesus looked into Zacchaeus life and thought: “Zacchaeus is a thieving, selfish, greedy, materialistic man—who is feeling lonely, rejected, guilty and unloved—what he needs is companionship, forgiveness, acceptance and comfort.” So, instead of saying, “Stop it and come down,” Jesus said, “Come on down, let’s go to your house and have lunch together.” Three hours later the door opened and Zacchaeus stepped out on the porch and announced to the crowd, “Half of all I own I give to the poor, and anything I have stolen from you I will restore four times over!” Then, Jesus stepped out on the steps and said, “Today salvation has come to this house!” (Luke 19:1-10). In this model Jesus invited Himself right into Zacchaeus’ life and then proceeded to clean up his sin and turn his live completely around. It only took three hours in the presence of Jesus for the transformation to occur—it may take a little longer with some of us. I conclude that both models are appropriate. The key is having the spiritual insight to know which model to use when. Jesus was very clear about the sacred solemnity of how we handle those who are close to coming into the kingdom. Sometimes, we need to get out of the way and just let Jesus and the Holy Spirit do their work. Jesus said to the Pharisees in Matthew 23:13-14: “Woe to you, teachers of the Law, and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the Kingdom of Heaven in men’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, now will you let those who are trying to.” As I think back to my encounter with the man struggling to give up his mistress—I am pretty sure that I used the wrong model. I believe that what I should have done was lead him into a saving relationship with Christ. He wanted and needed Jesus. After all, Jesus said that it only takes a little faith (Matthew17:20) to come into the kingdom—and I believe that he had more than a little faith! Then, I could have befriended him, invited him to church and guided him into a small group where he could grow in Christ. I would like to think that he would mature spiritually to the point where Jesus could inspire him to make the proper decisions regarding his mistress and marriage issues. But, I didn’t handle this well. I have never seen him again. Well, J, I am really glad we talked yesterday. I think that it is good to ponder just how we handle those who are so close to coming into the Kingdom. We want to do all we can to open the door and not shut it. Love, Roger

Hi Roger, I’m borderline computer illiterate so I couldn’t figure out how to shoot you a question on Ask Roger. Hope this reaches you. Jesus taught that we are to love our enemies and do good to those who spitefully use us. He also taught that we shouldn’t resist evil, but overcome evil w/good. I feel that I need to speak out against the ground zero mosque but that’s resisting. I love Muslims but I’m not happy about the mosque as it is intended to symbolize conquest over America and particularly, it implies that 9/11 was in fact a victory in jihadist’s war against America. The psychological impact of that is very destructive and intentionally so. Our founding fathers didn’t overcome evil w/good. They didn’t stay in England and endure the persecution, affecting change by their example of Christ like love. They resisted the King of England and when that didn’t work, they left Europe for America. What’s the balance supposed to be like Roger? This antagonism of America is very painful. I want to do the right thing but I’m somewhat at a loss to understand what that is. I know the right thing doesn’t involve violence. I’m very clear on that. But what are Christians supposed to do? Sincerely, Ed Dear Ed, You always ask me the most difficult questions. I enjoy them; especially because they almost never allow for a simple “black or white” answer. You always ask about the “gray areas” of life where thinking Christians have to make wise decisions about how to behave in complex situations. Frankly, the issues we face are usually in the “gray” areas of life. Deciding how to behave and respond takes much godly wisdom—especially because Paul’s teachings regarding the conscience mean that what is the right behavior for one may be sinful for another. So, let’s start with the two extremes. Terry Jones’ behavior is on the dark side. Remember that he is the pastor of a small church in Florida who recently declared that he would publicly burn a copy of the Quran on 9/11. News of his derogatory behavior circled the globe. I read one headline that said, “Christian Pastor To Burn Quran On 9-11.” As I read those lines I thought to myself, “That headline is an unfair slam against millions of loving, accepting and kind-hearted Christians and pastors all over the world.” A much fairer headline might have read, “Mean, Unloving, Thoughtless, Radical, Arrogant, Un-Christian Jackass To Burn Quran On 9-11.” Please excuse my using a term like, “jackass”. However, it just seems appropriate, when according to the following article from Newsweek Magazine (“As Death Toll Rises, Media Should Look at Role in Quran-Burning Flap-Newsweek Sept 13”), he might be an accomplice to the persecutions and murder of Christians in other parts of the world that resulted from his un-Christian attitudes and behaviors. In the end, Pastor Terry Jones bowed to all the pressure, and perhaps his conscience, but it was too late. At least 16 people have been killed in Indian-controlled Kashmir and Afghanistan through today, as riots sparked by Jones’s planned—and then scrapped—burning of the Quran spread across the region. The violence started the day after 9/11, when the world should still have been recoiling from confronting the dangers of religious extremism. The terrible deed wrought by religious zealots nine years ago had the power to help prompt two nearly decade-long wars in which hundreds of thousands have perished. All that horror – and many would say, folly—was ignited by the fundamentalist passions of a small number of lunatics. This time a single man—the leader of a tiny, obscure church in Gainesville, Fla., sparked the bloodshed. By Saturday, Jones had told NBC that he would not burn a Quran, “not today, not ever.” But the rage that he seemed so bent on tapping into had already exploded. Ultimately, the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks was marked by more religiously-inspired violence and pointless loss of life. But the news media may have to examine their role in this episode. News organizations may well need to ask what public good was served by giving minute-by-minute updates of the antics of a little-known preacher. Jones’s decision to burn holy books near his sparsely attended church became global news because, well, it was disseminated globally. By making it big news, the media had a hand in prompting the subsequent violence. The question is what happens next time a crackpot decides he wants his 15 minutes of notoriety and chooses to do so by insulting Islam or baiting some other group.” OK, Ed, I know we agree that a blatant attack on the most sacred text of Islam is not only nasty behavior, it can lead to bloodshed. By the way, so can the irresponsible behaviors of a thoughtless media whose primary concern is to make money at nearly any cost. Now let’s go to the other extreme and consider the “white” side. This extreme is just as “dark” as the previous one; however, in our “black and white” analogy, we may call this the “white” side. But, it is really not that white after all. This extreme proposes that Islam is no threat to our national security nor to our current way of life. Islam is a security threat in the sense that extremists use sections from the Quran to justify both terrorism and jihad—not only on America but on other Western nations as well. Acts of murderous behavior perpetrated by Muslim extremists against Christians in Allah’s name occur in places like Thailand, New Guinea and other Indonesian nations. In many ways Islam is a threat to our current American way of life because it is a cultural phenomenon that slowly changes cultural dynamics wherever Muslims congregate and ultimately proliferate. Historically, much of North Africa was Christian until the Muslims slowly began to move into those areas, and today, Christianity is not welcomed in any North African nation. Several hundred years ago the peaceful Muslim infiltration into Spain was arrested when Islamic extremists attempted to overcome the Moors who lived there by force. In the ensuing battles he Moors were victorious and the Muslim advance into Europe was stopped—for a while. The current immigration of Muslims into France and England guarantee that the centuries-old lifestyle of those two nations will be (and already are being) irreversibly altered. One of the strategies used by Muslims to permeate and transform a community is to build large Islamic centers or Mosques that will, by their size and activities, draw in people from the surrounding area and see them convert to Islam. If the trend continues there will no longer be a church on every corner as we have exclaimed in the past. In a generation or two we will find a mosque on every corner. Nevertheless, their goal to spread Islam through such a center is not foreign to history. We Christians have done the same thing, many times, to spread the message of Christ. Without a doubt, like the Muslims, we will keep on doing it. All right Ed, as you ask in your letter, allow me to answer your specific questions more directly. Let’s maneuver into the “gray area” as we seek a balanced approach as we sort out our feelings and actions regarding Muslims and the teachings of the Quran. When Jesus taught that we are to “love our enemies and do good to those who spitefully use us,” He in no way expected that we must muzzle ourselves so as not to offend or hurt the feelings of our enemies. I don’t look at our Muslim friends as being our enemies anyway. They are people just like we are who want to experience a peaceful existence, raise healthy, well-adjusted children, have loving friends, enjoy a measure of material success, find meaning and purpose in life and to enjoy the benefits of religious freedom. We must remember that many of our Muslim friends are appalled at the behavior of Islamic terrorists. Time and time again Muslim leaders have tried to separate themselves from any association or approval of the terrorists and their activities. Maybe it is time we listened. Hesham A. Hassaballa recently addressed this issue when he quoted the declaration made at the second most influential school in the Islamic world, the Darul Uloom at Deoband: “[At] this All India Anti-Terrorism Conference attended by the representatives of all Muslim schools of thought organized by Rabta Madaris Islamiah Arabia (Islamic Madrassa Association), Darul Uloom Deoband condemns all kinds of violence and terrorism in the strongest possible terms.” Maulana Marghoobur Rahmad of Darul Uloom said, “There is no place for terrorism in Islam. Terrorism, killing of the innocent, is against Islam.” Hassaballa observed: “Although I am not a scholar, all my reading of Islamic scripture and teachings have informed me that violence against the innocent is totally abhorrent in Islam. One does not need to be a scholar to fully grasp this understanding; it virtually screams out of Islamic teachings–if anyone is willing to listen.” With this understanding, may we solve conflicts with our friends in a functional way as Jesus recommend in Matthew 18 and in the Sermon on the Mount. Paul encouraged us throughout his epistles to handle conflicts openly, honestly, and functionally. I conclude that it is quite all right to express displeasure with our Muslim friend’s behaviors without doing it in a mean or offensive way. Our loving behavior may be a marvelously attractive expression when contrasted with the name-calling and criticism so angrily expressed by some in our culture. Just because we don’t appreciate our friends’ behaviors in no way means that we can’t express our displeasure with a Mosque being erected at Park 51. Speaking out against the ground zero mosque is not necessarily “resisting”—it is our freedom to express our views. But, remember, in a country built on the concept of religious freedom, both Christians and Muslims have every right to express their religion without being persecuted, ostracized or ridiculed by others—and vice versa! By the way, I personally feel that it is quite all right to be absolutely incensed at the erection of a mosque so near to what is becoming a sacred place of its own in America. Very few would argue against your idea that the mosque is intended to be anything other than a symbol of conquest over America and that as you say, “it implies that 9/11 was in fact a victory in Jihadist’s war against America. The psychological impact of that is very destructive and intentionally so.” Your parallel question regarding the seeking of religious freedom by our founding forefathers is intriguing. I think of Paul in the Book of Acts about to be murdered by terrorist Judaic leaders. He was persuaded by his friends not to stay and fight the unwinnable. They lowered him over the wall at night and Paul ran away to live and fight another day. There is time to get stoned to death by the citizens of Lystra. There are also times to sneak out in a basket to live to fight another day. When every attempt to reconcile with the English monarchy was stymied, and no more amount of Christ-like-love would change matters, it was time to get in the boat and sail to America. Let me suggest a practical answer to your question, “Just what are Christians supposed to do?” Cherie Grey is a Casas’ member who has done an outstanding job helping Middle Eastern families locate successfully to Arizona. She has a number of people organized to provide food, clothes, housing, jobs and support for these transplants. Cherie wrote an article several years ago entitled “Ministering to Muslims.” I think she has answered your question better than I ever could. We can build walls or we can build bridges. We can start with all the reasons why our religions are different and why we have different god’s and why what they believe is wrong and what we believe is right. Or… We could find the redeeming truths that they already have in their culture and use those as BRIDGES to share Truth with them. Here are some bridges to start with: 1. Allah- this is the Arabic word for God and is used by all Arabic Christians when referring to God, and is written in Arabic Bibles as well. 2. Isa- this is the Muslim word for Jesus, no matter what country they are from or what language they speak; most often our Arabic Muslim friends refer to Jesus as “Isa al-masih” which means “Jesus the Messiah” although they don’t understand what Messiah means. 3. Prophet- Muslims honor great men of God and will give them the title of Prophet when they speak of them, for example “Prophet Moses” or “Prophet Abraham”; Muslims have great reverence for God while we practice a more casual faith in America. 4. Four Holy Books- every good Muslim who has been educated at all knows that there are 4 holy books and they should read them all— •Torah (they say Taoorat)- the law of Moses •Psalms (they say Zaboor)- of Prophet David •New Testament (they say Injeel)- story of Jesus life •Quran 5. Injeel- this is the Muslim word for Bible (as well as the word for the N.T.); if you call it a “Bible” then your Muslim friend will assume that it is the Christian book that has been corrupted, but if you call it an “Injeel” they will be drawn to read it, especially if you can find one in their language; treat it like a holy book and don’t put it on the floor or show irreverence. 6. Prayer- take every opportunity to pray with your Muslim friends; remind them that Jesus is the only Prophet in the Quran who can heal people and raise people from the dead and so you want to pray in Jesus name because it has power; all 4 holy books suggest that we pray with our hands raised and our eyes toward heaven and this is how our Muslim friends will recognize our reverence for God. 7. Christian- most Muslims have very wrong definitions of “Christian” just as we have many misconceptions about them; because of the influence of Hollywood in so many countries most of the world thinks that Christians are immoral, polytheistic, wine-drinking, pig-eating, loose-dressing, materialistic, corrupt, unclean Westerners. It is wise to identify yourself as a “follower of Jesus” rather than a Christian, and this usually opens up wonderful conversations. 8. Dress- Muslims measure godliness by what they see on the outside; when visiting with Muslim friends you want them to know that you honor God and what you are wearing says a lot about your faith even before you open your mouth; it is wise for us to err on the conservative side (cover shoulders and knees) if you feel comfortable doing so. 9. Friendship- above all else our Muslim friends value relationships and their “love language” is hospitality and generosity; as believers our friendship needs to be faithful and consistent with them as we establish trust and offer our hospitality and love them as Jesus loved them. Jesus taught that we “shouldn’t resist evil, but overcome evil w/good.” In other words, the love, support and kindness, we demonstrate to our Muslim neighbors should be so attractive that they are irresistibly drawn to Christ and soon surrender their hearts to Christ as their Lord and Savior. Well, Ed, I hope you some help and guidance in my answer. Thanks again for asking. Love, Roger By the way, thanks to the efforts of some of our Casas missionaries, we have the entire audio New Testament in Arabic on our site.

Dear Roger, What are your thoughts on the “feel good” church, and how do they get away from preaching the gospel and the studies through scripture…..!!?? From Concerned Child Dear Concerned Child, I assume that you are using the term “feel good” to define churches—especially today’s megachurches—which seem to water down the gospel and avoid and/or seldom us the word “sin” in order not to offend. These churches seem to prefer pop-cultural counseling sermons to Biblical ones. Some describe “feel good” churches as those which minimize the awe and holiness of God in favor of a “good-buddy” Jesus who is more friend than Lord and Savior. The music in these churches seems more “me” focused than God focused. Sermons and worship services seem shallow and close to a waste of time to Christians who long to mature in their faith. Concerned Child, I hope I have accurately summarized to some degree what you had in mind by the term “feel good” churches. Churches come in a variety of forms with varying values, styles, emphases and expressions of their faith. Hopefully, values remain intact while expressions of the Faith change from decade to decade and from generation to generation. I occasionally hear Christians say, “I just want a return to the first century church.” I respond, “Which first-century church would you like to attend? Jesus wrote to seven of them in Revelation 2-3. Would you want to attend the church at Ephesus with great Bible teaching but no love? Or, perhaps you might select the persecuted church at Smyrna? Or, perhaps you might like to attend the church at Thyatira which was full both of love and of tolerance for sin? The church at Sardis is not too attractive, don’t you think; it had great form but no power? Who would want to associate with the church at Laodicea which is the church that isn’t a church? Frankly, of the churches that received letters of evaluation from Jesus, my preference would be to attend the church at Philadelphia—the evangelism church. The members of this church were so engrossed in reaching the “Lost” for Christ that they had no time to fall into sin. Philadelphia is the only one of the seven churches which received nothing but praise from Jesus. Philadelphia is what we might call a “Kingdom Church.” A Kingdom Church confronts culture with the gospel. A Kingdom Church is sometimes mistaken for a “feel good” church. By the way, since we will use the term “Lost” numerous times throughout my answer, we must recognize that this is Jesus’ term for people who are wandering unforgiven outside the Shepherd’s fold. Jesus told three parables in Luke 15 describing His desperate searching for lost souls. The parables of the Lost Sheep, the Lost Coin, and the Lost Son demonstrate the joy in Heaven for each one of the Lost who are found and now safely in the arms of the Good Shepherd. As culture changes some churches modify their forms, practices, and expressions of Christianity in order to remain relevant to the changing society around them. These churches constantly rearrange their strategic and tactical plans both for how they will approach and reach the Lost, and with regards to how they are going to “do” church. Churches that adapt instigate a new generation of ministry. The other churches die out. Early in my ministry I observed that most evangelical churches could be separated into five major categories: (1) Bible Teaching; (2) Evangelistic; (3) Charismatic; (4) Prayer; and (5) Cross-Cultural Missions. Many churches combined various aspects from several categories so that church expressions were multiplied, varied and individualistic. The church I pastored when I first entered ministry, Casas Church in Tucson, was a mixture of two categories: Bible teaching and evangelism. As the years passed Casas evolved more into a Bible Teaching church that was focused not nearly enough on evangelism. Over the last two generations Casas has morphed more into what I call a Kingdom Church. While trying to be sensitive to over generalization, I tend to categorize today’s churches into four major categories: (1) Fortress (2) Prophetical; (3) Kingdom; and (4) Compromising. A church tends to be in one category or another. These categories are based on how a church deals with society. The Fortress Church deals with society by withdrawing from it. The Prophetical Church (modeled after the Old Testament prophets) deals with society by pronouncing judgment upon it. The Kingdom Church deals with society by engaging with it. The Compromising Church deals with society by becoming it. A Fortress Church deals with society by withdrawing from it. The Fortress Church focuses primarily on keeping Christians safe, secure, and separated from the evil and seductive influences of the “non Christian world.” In practical reality they are so focused on protecting themselves from cultural contamination that they seldom venture out to engage the Lost or open their doors and invite them to enter. A Prophetical Church is modeled after the Old Testament prophets who pronounced judgment on a wicked and perverse people. (This term does not refer to churches that place great emphasis on end times prophecy teachings nor on the spiritual gift of prophecy.) This type of church focuses primarily on declaring judgment and destruction on the ungodly behaviors and sinful people who fail to live up to Biblical standards. One clearly-stated purpose of a Prophetical Church is to restore Christian principles to a godless nation. The Prophetical Church is a triple-edged sword. On one hand, our present culture needs to hear about sin, judgment, repentance and Biblical teachings. On the other hand, it is not possible for those without Christ to make godly changes or to live by Biblical principles when they have not the spiritual power of the indwelling Christ. On the third hand, I grieve that judgmental cries of condemnation have failed, not only to change society, but they have decidedly damaged evangelistic efforts to reach the Lost. How so? Christians were known in the first-century-Roman Empire as the people who loved God and each other. Today, surveys reveal that 78% of Americans identify the evangelical Christian church as the most judgmental segment of our society. I wonder what happened to the days when Christians were known as the people who loved God and each other? The Prophetical Church misunderstands how Jesus approached different groups. He had strong words of judgment and denunciation for the religious leaders who defined spirituality and the pathway to God as obeying and practicing outwardly focused rules and regulations. He demonstrated warm-hearted love and acceptance for Lost Sheep. While describing the abundant life He had to offer, He was not easy on their sin. As the word got out, thousands flocked to experience the reality of His life and love. Obviously, love is a better tool than judgment for attracting and leading the Lost into the kingdom. A Kingdom Church deals with society by engaging with a lost culture for the purpose of leading people to Christ. The Kingdom Church focuses on using whatever tools are necessary to bring the Lost into the Kingdom (Matthew 6:10 and Luke 19:10). A Kingdom Church attempts to emulate the lifestyle of Jesus who was known as the One who spent most of His time with prostitutes and tax-collecting cheaters (Matthew 11:19; Mark 2:15-16). I define a Kingdom Church as one which moves out into society to seek the Lost wherever they are—even at the risk of “cultural condemnation.” A Kingdom Church functions as a spiritual hospital for sin-sick souls. In my opinion the Kingdom Church walks a thin line between staying true to the Gospel without compromising the necessities of facing the damning power of sin with repentance and for receiving Christ as Savior and Lord. The temptation is to become Pergamum (Revelation 2:14-16) or Thyatira (Revelation 2:19-23). The church at Pergamum compromised with the world while the church at Thyatira tolerated sin. The Kingdom Church reminds me most of the Philadelphian Church that advanced through open doors into a totally pagan culture in order to share the gospel with the Lost. Despite the obvious temptations, this churched walked the thin line and remained properly focused and balanced as they resisted compromise and contamination and received special commendation from Jesus. Now, Concerned Christian, my observation is that many Christians view the Kingdom Church as compromising and “shallow”—and some churches certainly are compromising and shallow! On the other hand, what may seem like shallow, “feel good” sermons may well be directed more at reaching the Lost on Sunday morning than at providing “deeper” Bible teachings for hungry Christians. This is all right with me as long as the church provides for “deeper” Bible studies in other settings. Seldom using the term “sin” on Sunday morning may seem compromising; on the other hand, not utilizing the term may be tactically designed to keep from alienating the Lost during their initial exposures to church. Nevertheless, a Kingdom Church will assure that the Lost will confront their sin, and their need for repentance and forgiveness at the proper time in their spiritual journeys. Let me share a short Biblical checklist of values which may help in evaluating the spiritual soundness of the Kingdom Church. First, a Kingdom Church presents the Gospel to today’s culture in a meaningful and relevant way. This presentation is effected by the evangelistic heart of its members as they interact with people in society—especially with their friends. The Kingdom Church may use the Sunday Morning Worship Service as their primary tool for making the gospel simple, inviting, and easy to understand. The driving value here is 1 Corinthians 9:22-23: “To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all men so that by all possible means I might save some. I do all this for the sake of the gospel, that I may share in its blessings.” Second, care must be taken to preach from the Bible the “whole doctrine of truth”. The Bible must be treated with holy integrity and its Words not compromised in any way. Very few come to church desiring to hear politics and/or pop-psychology. Every one comes eager to know, “Does God have a word for me, today?” Third, a Kingdom Church does not shy away from the sin issue. Sin may not make a good Sunday morning topic for the Lost; but, the problem of sin and the need for a Savior must be dealt with at the proper time and place. The operative verses here are Romans 3:23: “…for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God…”, and Romans 6:23: “For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.” Fourth, a Kingdom Church is careful to provide small groups for Bible study, prayer, fellowship, mentoring and discipleship. Acts 2:42 outlines the process: “They devoted themselves to the apostles’ teaching and to the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer.” If Bible exposition is not the focus of the traditional Sunday morning service, then Bible teaching for maturing Christians must occur in carefully planned settings. This is often accomplished in small groups led by spiritual Christians and good Bible teachers. By the way, sermons alone can never fully disciple anyone. Discipleship only occurs in close knit fellowship with other Christians. Paul outlined the process in 2 Timothy 2:22: “And the things you have heard me say in the presence of many witnesses entrust to reliable men who will also be qualified to teach others.” Finally, a Kingdom Church provides opportunities for true worship. Sunday morning is not the only time for engaging in heart-felt worship. The morning-service music should not be the only place believers are led into the throne room of Christ. Other opportunities must be carefully planned and provided. The guideline here is from Ephesians 5:19-20: “Speak to one another with psalms, hymns and spiritual songs. Sing and make music in your heart to the Lord, always giving thanks to God the Father for everything, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.” In my mind, churches face many challenges in transitioning into Kingdom Churches. One of the biggest challenges is providing fulfilling and meaningful worship and Bible sermons for Christians who are conditioned for having those needs met in a Sunday morning worship setting. Another challenge is to provide enough healthy small groups to accommodate the Christians already in the church and all the new people coming into the fold. Another challenge is to keep the gospel pure and unadulterated without sacrificing it on the altar of tolerance and compromise. Another challenge is to present a proper view of God. While His is intimately and caringly involved in our lives (Psalms 103 and 131), He is also a God who judges sin. While He gives His children total love and acceptance, He is at times deeply disappointed in them. Another challenge is to ensure that Jesus is uplifted in public to His proper place as Savior of the world (John 3:14-16 and 11:32). Jesus is worthy to be worshiped publicly and openly (Revelation 4:11; 5:9-15) in order that all may see our total and complete surrender to Him as Lord (Philippians 2:10-11). Well, Concerned Child, I hope some of my thoughts will help as you personally evaluate the changes of church models in our generation. Thank you for the thoughtful and relevant question. Love, Roger Here are the truths that shaped my life and ministry: https://piti.wpengine.com/ask-roger/detail/what-i-believe-and-why/

ear Roger, I don’t believe soldiers are respected for the sacrifices they make to protect and defend our country. What can you tell me about them? Sincerely, John Dear John, I was unable to serve in the military because of health issues, but I believe the Bible has much to say about this topic. My friend, Mark Marikos, is the guest author for this post: Be imitators of God, therefore, as dearly loved children and live a life of love, just as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God. (Ephesians 5:1-2) In an Air Force ROTC management class, we learned there are two types of power. “Power of Position” comes from holding a position of authority – be it by consent of those governed or by force. This includes dictators, presidents, bosses and other leaders. I have “Power of Influence” when I am trusted by someone in a position of power. One example given in the class was then Secretary of State, Henry Kissinger. Though he held limited authority, he was held in high regard by President Nixon, and thus was in a position to influence the decisions that Nixon made. Most of us will have limited chances to be in positions of authority over more than a small realm, but we all have the potential of being an influence in the life of someone in authority over us. As believers, we are not generally called to be in positions of power. But we are all called to respectfully submit to those in authority over us, not because they are somehow more important than we, but because God has put them in positions of authority. It does not mean their role is any more significant than ours, just different. In fact, their roles are often more difficult. Obey your leaders and submit to their authority. They keep watch over you as men who must give an account. Obey them so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no advantage to you. (Hebrews 13:17) Now we ask you, brothers, to respect those who work hard among you, who are over you in the Lord and who admonish you. Hold them in the highest regard in love because of their work. Live in peace with each other. (1 Thessalonians 5:12-13) In several Bible stories, God used those in “lesser” positions to greatly influence the course of history by the advice given to those in positions of power. Examples include Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, Abednego, Esther, Mordecai, and Joseph. All of these were slaves or “conquered” people whom God used to “turn the hearts of kings.” Wise leaders choose trusted advisors very carefully. They look for those that demonstrate wisdom, loyalty and respect. Wisdom, by itself, will not guarantee a hearing unless the leader first trusts the person with wisdom. Loyalty, by itself, may be misguided, and prompt one to do unwise things that look like a good idea, but in the end may undermine the leader’s authority or power. When I show respect for a leader, it communicates my recognition of his or her position of authority and my desire to see him or her succeed. It communicates intentionality, on my part, to commit to that success. It does not mean I will always agree with every decision made, but that I am committed to advising with wisdom, even as I defer to the leader’s ultimate judgment. As a believer, respect implies an additional responsibility – that I will lovingly intercede on the leader’s behalf, that God will protect, shower mercy and grace upon, and grant wisdom to the leader. Those desires arise from my love for the leader, not just as my leader, but as a valued friend. I urge, then, first of all, that requests, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for everyone— for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. (1 Timothy 2:1-2) Some leaders are easier to respect than others, and some of us more easily show respect than others. But the Bible commands us to submit (respect, serve honestly, and pray for) our leaders and rulers, so that they can improve the conditions under which we, and others live. I so appreciate the example of Billy Graham as he has won such a place of deep influence even in the lives of presidents that often stood diametrically opposed to the message he preached. He gained that influence because he lovingly respected them and prayed earnestly for them. In at least one case a former president finally came to Christ. Only in heaven will we know the full extent of his influence on these men and the world events they presided over. Like the Centurion in Luke, Chapter 7, I need to recognize that “I myself am a man under authority …”, because all of us are ultimately under authority, whether we acknowledge it or not. But how does respect live itself out in my life? Biblical servanthood was modeled for us by the most powerful person in the Universe. Jesus said he did not come to be served, but to serve. … and whoever wants to be first must be your slave—just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.” (Matthew 20:27b-28) He admonished His disciples to be like-minded. When he had finished washing their feet, he put on his clothes and returned to his place. “Do you understand what I have done for you?” he asked them. “You call me ‘Teacher’ and ‘Lord,’ and rightly so, for that is what I am. Now that I, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also should wash one another’s feet. I have set you an example that you should do as I have done for you. I tell you the truth, no servant is greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him. Now that you know these things, you will be blessed if you do them.” (John 13:12-17, underline added) and we are reminded by Paul in Philippians 2:5-7 Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus: Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, but made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a servant,… Even more attention to respect is expected of us when dealing with other believers as our authorities. We should, in no way, show less respect (desire to see them succeed), because their success reflects well on Christ. All who are under the yoke of slavery should consider their masters worthy of full respect, so that God’s name and our teaching may not be slandered. Those who have believing masters are not to show less respect for them because they are brothers. Instead, they are to serve them even better, because those who benefit from their service are believers, and dear to them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2a) Respect is not required only of those under authority, but of all, in all circumstances – just as Christ modeled. We are commanded Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ. (Ephesians 5:21) That pretty much covers all of our relationships, vertical and horizontal. We are commanded to respect those under our authority as well. While wives are commanded to respect their husbands (Ephesians 5:22-24,33b; I Peter 3:1-6), husbands are commanded Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. After all, no one ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cares for it, just as Christ does the church— for we are members of his body. “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.” This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, … (Ephesians 5:25-33a) Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives, and treat them with respect as the weaker partner and as heirs with you of the gracious gift of life, so that nothing will hinder your prayers. (1 Peter 3:7 emphasis added) While children are admonished to obey and honor their parents (Ephesians 6:1-3), fathers are told … do not exasperate your children; instead, bring them up in the training and instruction of the Lord. (Ephesians 6:4) If we treat our children with respect, we will not exasperate them. They will feel valued, even as we correct their errors and disciple them into the service of Christ. Even masters (bosses) are told … treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him. (Ephesians 6:9) after Paul tells slaves to … obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but like slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not men, because you know that the Lord will reward everyone for whatever good he does, whether he is slave or free. (Ephesians 6:5-7) As far as lateral relationships we are commanded Remind the people to be subject to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready to do whatever is good, to slander no one, to be peaceable and considerate, and to show true humility toward all men. (Titus 3:1-2) But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect, keeping a clear conscience, so that those who speak maliciously against your good behavior in Christ may be ashamed of their slander. (1 Peter 3:15-16) When I demonstrate respect for someone, I increase the influence I have in their lives. This is an important concept that can improve the quality of every relationship I own. Besides the obvious effect my respect will have upon my superiors’ (bosses, church leaders, civic leaders) attitude towards my advice, it will increase my influence in the lives of all to whom it is shown. A wife who demonstrates respect for her husband will find him generally more willing to listen to her concerns and ideas, and will increase his desire for her. As she looks to making him successful (not just in the workplace but in the home, the church and the community), she will find him more enthusiastic about his protective role as a husband. She will find him more demonstrative in his affection towards her and more inclined to seek time with her over other pursuits. We men are like that. We prefer to spend ourselves where we feel most successful. Nothing builds up a man and brings out the best in him than when he hears of his wife’s respect for him – be it from her mouth or from the mouths of others. Wives, in the same way be submissive to your husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives, when they see the purity and reverence of your lives. (1 Peter 3:1-2) Likewise, when a man demonstrates respectful love towards his wife, he will find her more willing to give herself to him in every way. He will find her more willing to communicate respect towards him at home and abroad. He will empower her to become a “Proverbs 31 woman”, who is successful in all spheres of life, and she will enrich his life and the life of her family. 11 Her husband has full confidence in her and lacks nothing of value. 12 She brings him good, not harm, all the days of her life. … 23 Her husband is respected at the city gate, where he takes his seat among the elders of the land. … 25 She is clothed with strength and dignity; she can laugh at the days to come. 26 She speaks with wisdom, and faithful instruction is on her tongue. 27 She watches over the affairs of her household and does not eat the bread of idleness. 28 Her children arise and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praises her: … 31 Give her the reward she has earned, and let her works bring her praise at the city gate. Looking at these verses from Proverbs 31, it becomes obvious that her success is directly related to the respect and praise she is afforded by her husband. And because she is successful, he will prosper on all fronts. If it is his mouth praising her in the city gates his stature will rise with hers. And as a husband and wife demonstrate love and respect towards each other, they will be drawn closer together by their very actions. As they each communicate love and respect, their feelings will follow. They will find themselves drawn deeper in love with each other. Loving respect will render a marriage invulnerable to the temptations of unfaithfulness. But it will do far more than that. It will turn the home into a safe haven, a place of peace and rest, a recharging station that counters the weariness of life. Likewise, children who show respect for their parents will likely find them more willing to trust them with responsibilities and privileges. They will find their parents more interested in their lives and concerns and more eager to enter into their world. Every parent seeks to build lasting influence into the lives of their children. Children who feel respected by their parents, will welcome that influence because they feel valued and significant. They too want to feel successful, and if they feel respect at home, they are more likely to look to their parents for advice, consolation and leadership (by example). Every relationship in which I exercise respect, will be improved by that. If I desire greater cooperation and camaraderie among my co-workers, my respect will communicate that I value them and wish to see them succeed. Like me, they will be drawn to relationships in which they feel successful. If I want to win over the crabby neighbor next-door, respect will draw him or her into relationship as they feel valued and invested in. I will find my success in evangelism directly proportional to the respect I demonstrate towards those I seek to bring into the kingdom. By respect, I demonstrate my concern for them and my desire to see them ultimately successful in life. I show them that I value them because they are children of God and as they feel valued by me, they may begin to feel valued by God. My respect will earn their trust, so that my words, especially God’s truth, spoken in respectful love will be heard and taken deep into their hearts where it can grow, blossom and bear fruit. Lastly, in order to show proper respect, I need to be a respectable person. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor. (Romans 13:7) Make it your ambition to lead a quiet life, to mind your own business and to work with your hands, just as we told you, so that your daily life may win the respect of outsiders and so that you will not be dependent on anybody. (1 Thessalonians 4:11-12) Deacons, likewise, are to be men worthy of respect, … In the same way, their wives are to be women worthy of respect, (1 Timothy 3:8,11 Live as free men, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil; live as servants of God. Show proper respect to everyone: Love the brotherhood of believers, fear God, honor the king. (1 Peter 2:16-17) As my respectability rises, so will the value of my respect in the lives of others. As others feel my respect, they will invite my influence in their lives, and I will be drawn deeper into an ever-growing fellowship, in numbers and depth. If we, as the church, would practice this kind of loving respect towards each other and others, the world would sit up and take notice. “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.” (John 13:34-35) And we would see the church become the powerful influence it was in the first days. Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts, praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved. (Acts 2:46-47)

Dear Roger, I am a pastor and just found out that our worship pastor is committing adultery. I have heard through the grapevine that you’ve dealt with this issue on several occasions. This man has a significant following and I am afraid that he will spin his sin in such a way that might split the church and cause much confusion and pain. As far as I know very few people are aware of his behavior. I want to handle this problem Biblically and properly. I want to keep the residual damage to the church as minimal as possible. Thanks for your help. Sincerely, Any Pastor Dear Any Pastor, Unfortunately, you are not the first pastor to face this issue. We all hear stories about how adultery and all kinds of sexual sin leads to such turmoil and destruction. In your case worship pastor sinned. However, any staff member can fall. I couch my answer in the “worship leader context” because this is the case in your particular situation. Nevertheless the principles apply to any staff position—male or female. Let me share several principles that I hope are helpful. Sexual sin by a church leader cannot be allowed to go “underground.” The key words for handling this situation are truth, truth and truth. The next three words are openness, openness and openness. The next three words are leadership, leadership and leadership. Carefully ascertain, as best you can, the validity—or not—of the accusation. Paul gave clear-cut guidelines to Timothy: “Do not entertain an accusation against an elder unless it is brought by two or three witnesses” (1 Timothy 5:19). Sometimes, you may need to seek out quietly the “right” people in verifying the accuracy of the allegation. At other times you may pesonally just figure out what is going on. Once, one of our staff began acting strangely, keeping unusual hours, not going home on time, etc. I added up two plus two and got four. After church the next evening one of my trusted elders and I took the man outside. I said, “You’re committing adultery, aren’t you.” Mine was more a declarative statement than a question. He stammered, “Yes,” before he even had time to think. Early on in the process include a trusted and influential church leader into the loop. You certainly don’t want to give an opportunity for a “he said … you said … she said … I didn’t say that …” scenario to develop after you confront the worship leader. This is not a church problem you want to handle alone (Galatians 6:1-2). Understand that this church crisis is not the time for debating how to handle the problem, whether or not to try to restore him, whether or not to allow him to continue leading worship while you search for a suitable solution, or whether or not he should keep his job. His trust level with you, the rest of the staff and the church congregation has dissipated like the morning mist. He has lost his authority to minister (This can be regained later—perhaps). If he keeps his job and commits another sexual sin, the church is now wide open for lawsuits. We have a “duty of care” to protect others in the congregation. Consider that it is not unwise in today’s litigious society to obtain legal counsel as you proceed through the process of handling the sinful situation which is now tossed in your lap. Call an elder’s or deacon’s or board meeting the same week you that unearth and verify the sin. The official leaders must be informed and action taken to remove the offender from job responsibilities immediately. Remember that, as pastor, you are in the “power position.” As a result, you want to act quickly and decisively—before the rest of the church suspects a problem—and before the worship leader can rally a following. Your official church leaders also have “power.” You want them to know the truth so they can squelch potential lies or rumors. Pick the right time to confront. Once we had a series of multiple-night-church pageants. I knew what was going on behind the scenes with one of our staff persons. Unfortunately, he was such an integral part in the nightly performances that to remove him would necessitate canceling the remaining programs. So, I decided to let him finish out the next several nights. As soon as the last performance concluded, he and I had a talk. Sadly, the offender’s job must be terminated immediately. Have him clean out his office. Remove him from all places of leadership. He (or she) may not stand before any church group to explain, repent or suggest anything at this time. That can come later. If that seems a little harsh, so be it. Having just been “caught”, his emotions, thinking and words can’t be trusted. A time for repentance may come. But, not until the crisis is settled down and time has passed and you know whether or not true repentance is occurring. Three affected areas need special care: the sin; the church; and the sinner. The Bible is quite clear about how church leaders are to handle the sin of another church leader. They are to expose the improper behavior to the church in order that the fellowship may understand that no one is so high up in church leadership that they can sin and get away with it. Paul advised Timothy: “Those who sin are to be rebuked publicly, so that the others may take warning” (1 Timothy 5:20). Sin in the church is serious business—especially when committed by a church leader and must be handled accordingly. Let’s talk about what exposing sin and improper behavior might look like. This can be done discretely to ensure minimal damage to the church and to the staff pastor who sinned. The Sunday after the elders make the termination official the church needs to be told. Remember, nothing hidden; tell the truth. Telling the church what happened and why the leader can no longer keep his job is handling the issue decisively and will immediately stop all rumors. I tell the congregation that the worship leader has committed a sin that forfeits his job. Then I say, “I am not going to tell you what sin he committed. We will leave that between him and the close group who are sorting out and properly handling the issues. Don’t be too harsh; some of you have committed exactly the same sin—or a variation of it. This is not the time for judgment. It is time for grieving and compassion. We are all hurting. But, none of us is hurting as much as he and his family. They need love and compassion; so when you see them, grieve with them and comfort them.” Then, I continue, “If you feel that you have to know which sin he committed, then ask him. He can choose to tell you or not” (By the way, as far as I know, no one has ever taken me up on this offer.). Then, I proceed: “His job is terminated because his behavior has violated trust to such a degree that he can no longer work here with integrity. We have developed a restoration plan that we pray can heal the marriage and one day result in a renewed opportunity for him to reenter into ministry. At the proper time he can publicly share his sorrow, regret and repentance with us all if he so desires.” In my experience, some avail themselves of this opportunity; and, some decline. Finally, I say, “The worship leader and his family have decided to stay in our fellowship for a while as they begin to put their lives back together” (Every one of our ministers who has fallen in our church has chosen this option.). I continue, “I know it is awkward, but their friends and support are in our congregation. So love them and treat them with the care they need.” Some groups need a little more care and restoration. In most cases we arrange for the fallen pastor to meet with the ministry groups that he worked with and led. This often results in a time of broken-hearted confession and repentance which is good for all involved. Not surprisingly, some have a hard time holding back their anger because of the loss and betrayal they’ve experienced. At this point, one or our counselors or I talk about the range of emotions we are all feeling and how to handle them properly. This is a good time to let the words and emotions of the group flow as they struggle to begin healing. Now that we have talked about handling the sin and healing the church, let’s talk about the needs of the worship leader. We are dealing here with a broken-hearted man and his family. As I mentioned before, we invite them to stay in our fellowship as they heal. We arrange and pay for marriage counseling. Unfortunately, not every church has the resources to do this. We invite several men to develop a support group to help restore him to integrity and to ministry. We ask several women to join in comforting and supporting his wife. We try to care for them financially as they make the transition to a new life and line of work. In our case we usually continue salary for four to six months with the provision that when they obtain another job, or if they do anything to unsettle the church or congregation, their transition funds terminate. We also try to work out a way to help continue their medical insurance, if needed. Anger at the worship leader and the pain he has caused makes it quite tempting to withhold proper care. Just remember that the church is not the only victim is this whole affair. If there is any time that a wife and children need support and financial security, this is it! If for no other reason, take care of his innocent family in their turmoil. In my experience, and in discussions with other pastor friends, we agree that it is easy for husband and wife to ultimately join forces and blame the church for their demise—and what they consider to be ill treatment. They will often, unknowingly or not, transfer a tremendous amount of anger from themselves to the church. I’ve heard people say things like, “Well, what do you expect? The church always shoots its wounded!” When I hear this comment I often think, “Well, everything would have been fine had he not first fired a double-barreled shotgun in our midst.” But, I never say those words—out loud! I just pray for the hurting couple to find healing, relief and restoration—and perhaps one day to successfully reintegrate into ministry. Well, Any Pastor, I hope these thoughts may be of help. May God bless you, your church family and your broken minister as you utilize truth, openness and leadership, during these painful times. Love, Roger